CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2 vs The Complete JavaScript Course 2024: From Zero to Expert!
Same Bayesian formula, same rubric — so the difference in scores reflects the difference in the courses, not the difference in how we evaluated them.
Frontend Masters · Web Development
CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2
Udemy · Web Development
The Complete JavaScript Course 2024: From Zero to Expert!
Per-criterion
Covers responsive layout across two parts — Flexbox (grid systems, navigation, responsive images) and CSS Grid (Mondrian and magazine layouts, cards). Reviewers say it teaches modern layout "without hacks", though v2 predates subgrid and container queries.
Jen Kramer is the most-praised element — a long-time CSS educator who explains layout clearly and at a beginner-friendly pace. Learners and a Hacker News commenter call her CSS courses "very good" and her teaching "well taught, in-depth".
Requires a $39/month (or $390/year) Frontend Masters subscription rather than a one-time purchase — strong value if you use the wider catalog, weaker if you only want this one course. The course is included in the standard subscription.
More hands-on than most CSS courses: each section ends in build exercises and a capstone, including a Mondrian painting and magazine layouts. The builds are small practice pieces rather than a full portfolio site, but they reinforce the concepts well.
Flexbox and Grid are the everyday tools for production layout, and learners report finishing real site layouts noticeably faster afterward. The main gap is currency — the newer features (subgrid, container queries) are covered in Kramer's v3, not this version.
Praised across HN for "behind the scenes" coverage of execution context, scope chain, hoisting and prototypes, paired with modern ES6+. The 2024 refresh added optional chaining and async patterns, though ES2023+ features land slower than on MDN.
Consistently named alongside Stephen Grider and Andrew Mead as a top Udemy instructor. The recurring caveat is delivery — one HN commenter called him "a great teacher but ridiculously monotonous", a real preference filter rather than a one-off.
Listed at $200 but realistically bought on Udemy sales for ~$15-$20. At sale price, 69 hours of video plus lifetime access make it one of the highest content-per-dollar paid JS resources. No commenter we tracked recommends full price.
Three substantial build-along projects (Pig Game, Bankist, Forkify) are repeatedly singled out. Forkify in particular forces real architectural decisions — MVC, async data, module bundling — rather than toy examples.
Strong on language fundamentals and vanilla DOM work that transfer to any framework. Weaker on production tooling — most learners supplement with a React or framework course afterwards to close the gap to job-ready.
Scoring methodology applies identically to every course on the site — see the formula.