CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2 vs The Web Developer Bootcamp 2024
Same Bayesian formula, same rubric — so the difference in scores reflects the difference in the courses, not the difference in how we evaluated them.
Frontend Masters · Web Development
CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2
Udemy · Web Development
The Web Developer Bootcamp 2024
Per-criterion
Covers responsive layout across two parts — Flexbox (grid systems, navigation, responsive images) and CSS Grid (Mondrian and magazine layouts, cards). Reviewers say it teaches modern layout "without hacks", though v2 predates subgrid and container queries.
Jen Kramer is the most-praised element — a long-time CSS educator who explains layout clearly and at a beginner-friendly pace. Learners and a Hacker News commenter call her CSS courses "very good" and her teaching "well taught, in-depth".
Requires a $39/month (or $390/year) Frontend Masters subscription rather than a one-time purchase — strong value if you use the wider catalog, weaker if you only want this one course. The course is included in the standard subscription.
More hands-on than most CSS courses: each section ends in build exercises and a capstone, including a Mondrian painting and magazine layouts. The builds are small practice pieces rather than a full portfolio site, but they reinforce the concepts well.
Flexbox and Grid are the everyday tools for production layout, and learners report finishing real site layouts noticeably faster afterward. The main gap is currency — the newer features (subgrid, container queries) are covered in Kramer's v3, not this version.
Broad full-stack scope (HTML, CSS, JS, DOM, Node, Express, MongoDB) that shows beginners the whole shape of a web app. One recurring 2024 critique flags Udemy paid courses for "low effort updates" vs MDN or Odin.
Strongest criterion. Long-time HN users name Colt their "favorite web dev teacher" and credit his in-person classroom background. Signature move is walking students directly into mistakes then guiding them out.
Listed near $200 but routinely buyable for $10-$20 in Udemy sales — a price every commenter we tracked considers a giveaway given the runtime and lifetime access. The standard advice is to clear cookies, use incognito, and never pay sticker.
The build-along YelpCamp full-stack project (Express + MongoDB + authentication + image uploads) is the most-cited reason people finish the course feeling they built something real. Smaller mid- course exercises are praised as friction-removing but less portfolio-defensible.
Strong fundamentals on HTML, CSS, vanilla JS and a basic Node/Express/Mongo stack that transfers to most web roles. Weaker on modern tooling, TypeScript and React — most learners take a follow-up framework course to close the gap to a 2026 front-end job.
Scoring methodology applies identically to every course on the site — see the formula.