CourseVerdict

CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2 vs The Web Developer Bootcamp 2024

Same Bayesian formula, same rubric — so the difference in scores reflects the difference in the courses, not the difference in how we evaluated them.

Frontend Masters · Web Development

CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2

4.3/ 5 · 27 opinions
21 positive4 neutral2 negative/ 27 total

Udemy · Web Development

The Web Developer Bootcamp 2024

4.2/ 5 · 40 opinions
30 positive7 neutral3 negative/ 40 total

Per-criterion

Content quality4.4 / 5

Covers responsive layout across two parts — Flexbox (grid systems, navigation, responsive images) and CSS Grid (Mondrian and magazine layouts, cards). Reviewers say it teaches modern layout "without hacks", though v2 predates subgrid and container queries.

Instructor4.6 / 5

Jen Kramer is the most-praised element — a long-time CSS educator who explains layout clearly and at a beginner-friendly pace. Learners and a Hacker News commenter call her CSS courses "very good" and her teaching "well taught, in-depth".

Value for money4.1 / 5

Requires a $39/month (or $390/year) Frontend Masters subscription rather than a one-time purchase — strong value if you use the wider catalog, weaker if you only want this one course. The course is included in the standard subscription.

Projects4.0 / 5

More hands-on than most CSS courses: each section ends in build exercises and a capstone, including a Mondrian painting and magazine layouts. The builds are small practice pieces rather than a full portfolio site, but they reinforce the concepts well.

Real-world use4.3 / 5

Flexbox and Grid are the everyday tools for production layout, and learners report finishing real site layouts noticeably faster afterward. The main gap is currency — the newer features (subgrid, container queries) are covered in Kramer's v3, not this version.

Content quality4.1 / 5

Broad full-stack scope (HTML, CSS, JS, DOM, Node, Express, MongoDB) that shows beginners the whole shape of a web app. One recurring 2024 critique flags Udemy paid courses for "low effort updates" vs MDN or Odin.

Instructor4.3 / 5

Strongest criterion. Long-time HN users name Colt their "favorite web dev teacher" and credit his in-person classroom background. Signature move is walking students directly into mistakes then guiding them out.

Value for money4.4 / 5

Listed near $200 but routinely buyable for $10-$20 in Udemy sales — a price every commenter we tracked considers a giveaway given the runtime and lifetime access. The standard advice is to clear cookies, use incognito, and never pay sticker.

Projects4.0 / 5

The build-along YelpCamp full-stack project (Express + MongoDB + authentication + image uploads) is the most-cited reason people finish the course feeling they built something real. Smaller mid- course exercises are praised as friction-removing but less portfolio-defensible.

Real-world use4.0 / 5

Strong fundamentals on HTML, CSS, vanilla JS and a basic Node/Express/Mongo stack that transfers to most web roles. Weaker on modern tooling, TypeScript and React — most learners take a follow-up framework course to close the gap to a 2026 front-end job.

Scoring methodology applies identically to every course on the site — see the formula.