CourseVerdict

Deep JavaScript Foundations, v3 vs CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2

Same Bayesian formula, same rubric — so the difference in scores reflects the difference in the courses, not the difference in how we evaluated them.

Frontend Masters (Kyle Simpson) · Web Development

Deep JavaScript Foundations, v3

4.3/ 5 · 24 opinions
16 positive4 neutral4 negative/ 24 total

Frontend Masters · Web Development

CSS Grid and Flexbox, v2

4.3/ 5 · 27 opinions
21 positive4 neutral2 negative/ 27 total

Per-criterion

Content quality4.6 / 5

Reviewers consistently describe the curriculum as the deepest treatment of core JavaScript available in video form. The three pillars — types and coercion, scope and closure, and the this/prototype object system — are explained directly from the language specification rather than from surface behaviour. Gurpreet Singh's testimonial captures the consensus: "I know of no other resource that goes this deep into fundamentals of JS." The main critique is that some sections, particularly the OLOO delegation pattern in the object-oriented module, are presented as settled best practice when many experienced developers disagree.

Instructor4.5 / 5

Kyle Simpson, author of the You Don't Know JS book series, is widely praised for clarity and depth. Lara Karki called him "not only brilliant, but an excellent and articulate teacher" and Hatem Hassan noted he "has a unique way of explaining deep technical CS concepts in a simple and straightforward manner." The score is held below the instructor scores of less polarising teachers because his opinionated, prescriptive style draws genuine criticism — one HN commenter found his persona "very off-putting" and others object to his advocacy for == coercion.

Value for money4.2 / 5

The course is bundled into the Frontend Masters subscription at $39/month or $390/year, which also unlocks the entire library including Kyle's scope, closures, and asynchronous JavaScript courses. Lara Karki called the membership "the best $40 I'll spend this month, by far." Value is excellent for committed learners but the subscription model means a single 10.5-hour course is not buyable standalone, which frustrates learners who only want this one title.

Real-world use4.0 / 5

The course makes developers materially better at reading and reasoning about production JavaScript — Kevin O'Shaughnessy noted it "blew my mind how much there was going on in 10 lines of code." However, it is conceptual rather than project-based: there is no application built end to end, no framework, and no tooling. Reviewers who wanted to ship something tangible note that this is a foundations course, and its payoff shows up later as fewer bugs and clearer mental models rather than a portfolio piece.

Support3.6 / 5

Frontend Masters provides downloadable exercise files, transcripts, and a hosted course platform with adjustable playback speed, but there is no graded auto-grader, no mentor, and no certificate. Learners rely on the public GitHub note repositories and exercise mirrors that other students have published. This is a lecture-and-exercise format, not a guided cohort, so self-directed learners do best.

Content quality4.4 / 5

Covers responsive layout across two parts — Flexbox (grid systems, navigation, responsive images) and CSS Grid (Mondrian and magazine layouts, cards). Reviewers say it teaches modern layout "without hacks", though v2 predates subgrid and container queries.

Instructor4.6 / 5

Jen Kramer is the most-praised element — a long-time CSS educator who explains layout clearly and at a beginner-friendly pace. Learners and a Hacker News commenter call her CSS courses "very good" and her teaching "well taught, in-depth".

Value for money4.1 / 5

Requires a $39/month (or $390/year) Frontend Masters subscription rather than a one-time purchase — strong value if you use the wider catalog, weaker if you only want this one course. The course is included in the standard subscription.

Projects4.0 / 5

More hands-on than most CSS courses: each section ends in build exercises and a capstone, including a Mondrian painting and magazine layouts. The builds are small practice pieces rather than a full portfolio site, but they reinforce the concepts well.

Real-world use4.3 / 5

Flexbox and Grid are the everyday tools for production layout, and learners report finishing real site layouts noticeably faster afterward. The main gap is currency — the newer features (subgrid, container queries) are covered in Kramer's v3, not this version.

Scoring methodology applies identically to every course on the site — see the formula.