The Web Developer Bootcamp 2024 vs Complete Intro to React v9
Same Bayesian formula, same rubric — so the difference in scores reflects the difference in the courses, not the difference in how we evaluated them.
Udemy · Web Development
The Web Developer Bootcamp 2024
Frontend Masters · Web Development
Complete Intro to React v9
Per-criterion
Broad full-stack scope (HTML, CSS, JS, DOM, Node, Express, MongoDB) that shows beginners the whole shape of a web app. One recurring 2024 critique flags Udemy paid courses for "low effort updates" vs MDN or Odin.
Strongest criterion. Long-time HN users name Colt their "favorite web dev teacher" and credit his in-person classroom background. Signature move is walking students directly into mistakes then guiding them out.
Listed near $200 but routinely buyable for $10-$20 in Udemy sales — a price every commenter we tracked considers a giveaway given the runtime and lifetime access. The standard advice is to clear cookies, use incognito, and never pay sticker.
The build-along YelpCamp full-stack project (Express + MongoDB + authentication + image uploads) is the most-cited reason people finish the course feeling they built something real. Smaller mid- course exercises are praised as friction-removing but less portfolio-defensible.
Strong fundamentals on HTML, CSS, vanilla JS and a basic Node/Express/Mongo stack that transfers to most web roles. Weaker on modern tooling, TypeScript and React — most learners take a follow-up framework course to close the gap to a 2026 front-end job.
v9 covers React 18 and 19 features (form actions, Suspense, the React Compiler) plus a modern Vite + TanStack Router + TanStack Query stack. Praised for currency, with a minority of long-term Frontend Masters subscribers flagging that other courses in the catalog can drift.
Brian Holt is the most consistently praised aspect across nine years of Hacker News mentions. Learners use words like 'excellent', 'great', and 'brilliant'. His pet adoption project framing is repeatedly cited as memorable.
Requires a Frontend Masters subscription (currently $39/month), which is consistently described as worth it if you complete more than one course per month. Less competitive against free alternatives if you only want a single React intro.
The single build-along project (an e-commerce app in v9, evolved from the pet adoption app of earlier versions) is praised for being non-trivial and integrating real ecosystem tools (TanStack Query, Vitest) rather than toy examples.
Holt spends real time on tooling (Vite, ESLint, Prettier, code-splitting, Vitest) and modern ecosystem choices, which is the single most-cited reason people say his courses transferred well to their day jobs.
Scoring methodology applies identically to every course on the site — see the formula.